Putting Children Last: How Adult Desires Are Redefining Family | Katy Faust

In today’s world, adult choices often take center stage—even when they come at the expense of children.

In this episode, Samantha Stephenson talks with Katy Faust, president of Them Before Us and author of Them Before Us: Why We Need a Global Children’s Rights Movement. Together, they unpack how modern family structures—through third-party reproduction, divorce culture, and surrogacy—are increasingly shaped by adult wants rather than children’s needs. The result? A generation of kids paying the price for decisions they didn’t choose.

Mentioned in this episode:

Them Before Us organization
Them Before Us book
Children of divorce article at The Federalist